Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg announced his support last week for primary challenges against incumbents in safe seats who he felt aren’t rising to the occasion during Trump’s second nightmare term.
Absolutely yes! Established centrist Democrats are going to cause catastrophic losses if we don't foster bold, fiery, candidates like Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Maxwell Frost, Greg Casar, Chris Murphy, and others like them. We need loud, assertive, progressive leaders, not fossils. Fossils are for museums. Progressives are aggressively fighting for liberty; "civility" be damned. When fpotus and minion mouthpieces call us "radical, leftist, communist, Marxists", we need to counter the absurdity with flash and sass. More "bleach blonde bad butch body", please.
I can’t speak to Hogg’s criteria for challenging incumbents but in general they’d benefit from robust primaries. It’d get more Dem voters involved, it’d keep them in good campaign shape, and be good publicity for the party in the district. If you’re good at politics, you’ll hold your seat. If not, you might have been a liability anyway.
My own criteria for challenging these incumbents is whether they have any ability or inclination to fight the fascists.
I’ve been voting for the “lesser of two evils” since the 80’s. This last cycle I couldn’t believe that my party were telling people who are scared shitless about their rent going up to look at Wall St. to see how great the economy is. The leadership of the Democratic Party all sound like they don’t know anybody who is broke. Carville needs to shut his old pie-hole. He got lucky meeting Bill Clinton, a gifted politician who is about half-a-republican, and one of those lesser evils I was talking about.
No more conflating the GDP with the 'economy'...Pointing to soaring GDP as a good sign while children starve and Western State cities are peppered with homeless encampments is disgusting
BTW, I am sick and tired of Dem "leaders" using decorum, civility, and respect for the office of the presidency as an excuse to do nothing to stop the fascist in the WH. They are cowards, too comfortable, and couldn't care less about the rest of us, the Constitution, and the country. As long as someone as loathsome as trump is in the WH, I respect the office of the presidency by doing whatever is in my power to oppose him. THAT is what all Dems should be doing, if they truly respected the office of the presidency.
Yep—I don’t care if you’re old, or served a long time—you can be both those things and still a solid leader. What I hate is the defeatist mindset of “let’s cater to the GOP base” and “let’s appeal to civility and bipartisanship” and various other CW tropes that went out with NewsRadio.
Well all I can say is get the Internet faves in the barrel.
Carville is also considered relevant because he gets clicks for bad-faith MSM owners. I doubt a lot of Democrats consider him relevant.
All that needs to happen is the new people need to get this American electorate on board and do things like unseat as many unreconstructed Americans as possible. It does mean they have to extend into unreconstructed territory so you're going to have issues like what happened around 2010 in the Democratic Party, mind you.
All this, yes, yes and yes. Please let’s get rid of fucking Carville and throw in the pod save bros with him. But one thing. Let’s be careful in who we pick as our progressive challengers and not have any more Sinema or Fetterman fiascos.
I don't know how a Democrat wins the White House stanging up against Bibi but I do know a Democrat won't win the White House without standing up to Bibi.
I voted for Harris and certainly knew that Trump would be more dangerous for anyone living in Gaza, but I also understand why people wouldn't vote for a party that won't stop a genocide. Primaries certainly help in this situation by giving non-sitting candidates a chance, but we the people need to show up before primaries and get the word out.
I'll ask what everyone is asking—how can Carville be considered relevant? How does he end up with his face on all the Sunday shows blowing bullshit from his cakehole? Things are different now, Jimmy, from when you ran campaigns before a good percentage of voters were even born.
I'm in full agreement. We need more AOCs, Jasmine Crocketts, and if you're worried about youth, Bernie Sanders. We can toss Raskin, Mills, Pritzer, Van Hollen, Murphy, Buttigieg and others all across the Democratic spectrum into the "good" pile. Not our current cowed leadership.
I couldn't agree more. The DNC, and the Democratic candidate consulting class succeed only in turning off voters. James Carville and David Plough have no idea what it takes to win voters. It was their idiotic political theories that led to the fiasco of running Biden for a second term, finally deciding when it was way too late, and voters were already turned off, to switch candidates, then actively undermining the Harris Walz campaign, that led to Trump's return. The Democratic party must begin the rapid purge of centrist dinosaurs in all states, and at all levels.
Absolutely yes! Established centrist Democrats are going to cause catastrophic losses if we don't foster bold, fiery, candidates like Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Maxwell Frost, Greg Casar, Chris Murphy, and others like them. We need loud, assertive, progressive leaders, not fossils. Fossils are for museums. Progressives are aggressively fighting for liberty; "civility" be damned. When fpotus and minion mouthpieces call us "radical, leftist, communist, Marxists", we need to counter the absurdity with flash and sass. More "bleach blonde bad butch body", please.
I can’t speak to Hogg’s criteria for challenging incumbents but in general they’d benefit from robust primaries. It’d get more Dem voters involved, it’d keep them in good campaign shape, and be good publicity for the party in the district. If you’re good at politics, you’ll hold your seat. If not, you might have been a liability anyway.
My own criteria for challenging these incumbents is whether they have any ability or inclination to fight the fascists.
I’ve been voting for the “lesser of two evils” since the 80’s. This last cycle I couldn’t believe that my party were telling people who are scared shitless about their rent going up to look at Wall St. to see how great the economy is. The leadership of the Democratic Party all sound like they don’t know anybody who is broke. Carville needs to shut his old pie-hole. He got lucky meeting Bill Clinton, a gifted politician who is about half-a-republican, and one of those lesser evils I was talking about.
This^^^^
No more conflating the GDP with the 'economy'...Pointing to soaring GDP as a good sign while children starve and Western State cities are peppered with homeless encampments is disgusting
𝑰 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒄𝒍𝒂𝒓𝒊𝒇𝒚 𝒘𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒏𝒆𝒆𝒅 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒓 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒊𝒅𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔 𝒔𝒐 𝒎𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒂𝒔 𝒃𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒔 — 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒊𝒅𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒃𝒂𝒄𝒌𝒈𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒅𝒊𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒔. 𝑾𝒆 𝒏𝒆𝒆𝒅 𝒑𝒆𝒐𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒓𝒚 𝒏𝒆𝒘 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒎𝒐𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒎𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒕𝒍𝒚 𝒆𝒏𝒈𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒗𝒐𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒂𝒓𝒆. 𝑷𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒓𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒅𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒏𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍 𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒔. 𝑰𝒏𝒆𝒓𝒕𝒊𝒂 𝒊𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒂 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒈𝒚.
^^This!^^
BTW, I am sick and tired of Dem "leaders" using decorum, civility, and respect for the office of the presidency as an excuse to do nothing to stop the fascist in the WH. They are cowards, too comfortable, and couldn't care less about the rest of us, the Constitution, and the country. As long as someone as loathsome as trump is in the WH, I respect the office of the presidency by doing whatever is in my power to oppose him. THAT is what all Dems should be doing, if they truly respected the office of the presidency.
Yep—I don’t care if you’re old, or served a long time—you can be both those things and still a solid leader. What I hate is the defeatist mindset of “let’s cater to the GOP base” and “let’s appeal to civility and bipartisanship” and various other CW tropes that went out with NewsRadio.
Well all I can say is get the Internet faves in the barrel.
Carville is also considered relevant because he gets clicks for bad-faith MSM owners. I doubt a lot of Democrats consider him relevant.
All that needs to happen is the new people need to get this American electorate on board and do things like unseat as many unreconstructed Americans as possible. It does mean they have to extend into unreconstructed territory so you're going to have issues like what happened around 2010 in the Democratic Party, mind you.
Exactly. Suffer no copperhead.
All this, yes, yes and yes. Please let’s get rid of fucking Carville and throw in the pod save bros with him. But one thing. Let’s be careful in who we pick as our progressive challengers and not have any more Sinema or Fetterman fiascos.
"Voters still make the call"
From your mouth to Dog's ears.
I don't know how a Democrat wins the White House stanging up against Bibi but I do know a Democrat won't win the White House without standing up to Bibi.
I voted for Harris and certainly knew that Trump would be more dangerous for anyone living in Gaza, but I also understand why people wouldn't vote for a party that won't stop a genocide. Primaries certainly help in this situation by giving non-sitting candidates a chance, but we the people need to show up before primaries and get the word out.
I'll ask what everyone is asking—how can Carville be considered relevant? How does he end up with his face on all the Sunday shows blowing bullshit from his cakehole? Things are different now, Jimmy, from when you ran campaigns before a good percentage of voters were even born.
I will answer that with a quote from Mark Twain...
Give a man a reputation for being an early riser and he can show up late for the rest of his life
Dina, it's a meritocracy. He's on TeeVee because he has so much merit.
Well, he must have SOMETHING I'm not seeing...
White skin and a southern accent
Little shame and no educability, plus hates women's voices. He's one of our representative Republicans.
A disconcerting countenance
I'm in full agreement. We need more AOCs, Jasmine Crocketts, and if you're worried about youth, Bernie Sanders. We can toss Raskin, Mills, Pritzer, Van Hollen, Murphy, Buttigieg and others all across the Democratic spectrum into the "good" pile. Not our current cowed leadership.
I couldn't agree more. The DNC, and the Democratic candidate consulting class succeed only in turning off voters. James Carville and David Plough have no idea what it takes to win voters. It was their idiotic political theories that led to the fiasco of running Biden for a second term, finally deciding when it was way too late, and voters were already turned off, to switch candidates, then actively undermining the Harris Walz campaign, that led to Trump's return. The Democratic party must begin the rapid purge of centrist dinosaurs in all states, and at all levels.