I’m glad Newsom has the looks, platform, personality,and charisma to troll Trump and a draw a parallel between old and busted to new hotness, to steal phrase from Men in Black.
Norms and manners and purity are all fine, but when our country is at risk from “Mango Mussolini”, we have to take our warriors where we can find them. I am 100% behind Newsom.
“I see Governor Abbott sent a bus load of illegal immigrants to my state. Fine, guess what—I just released a bus load of convicted murderers somewhere in his state—I won’t say where—and gave each of them a handgun (turns out Texas loves gun ownership) and a map to each Texas GOP legislator’s house. So please, Greg, keep sending more bus loads here—we have a lot more murderers to release.”
A scene I’d like to see. Make it so these bastards are scared to fuck with you.
There is risk that Trump would withhold disaster aid but fight the bastard anyway, then blame him for withholding the aid. Your constituents will suffer but they’ll know whose fault it was. When we bombed North Vietnam, their people didn’t sit there getting mad at Le Duan for refusing to negotiate—they just hated us.
And let’s rule out any Senate Democrats. They all suck, no exceptions, because they keep Schumer in charge and therefore endorse his wet noodle approach.
I don’t like Newsom, I think he’s untrustworthy, but I see his appeal and there’s an obvious parallel to 2016 when Republicans didn’t trust Trump either but voted for him because they wanted a hammer to crush their enemy.
I too want a fucking hammer right now. Sorry, Gretchen, hiding behind your briefing book—you’re no hammer. Beshear seems like a nice guy, fine go home to your kids. I don’t want to support Newsom but if by 2028 he’s the only one smart enough to run as a hammer and not Jeb Bush himself (“ please read my white paper on how to reform education!”) then I may have to.
And right now Democrats are in danger of losing badly because I’ve never missed voting in an election and even I am right now so disgusted with their weak shit I’m considering sitting out the next one, so what does that say about less regular voters?
Completely agree with your premise associating DeSantis using his MAGA platform as governor of solidly MAGA Florida to attack Biden, with Newsome and Pritzker using their Democratic platform as governors of safe blue states to openly attack Trump. I wish more Democratic members of congress, aside from the usual women of color, and a scant couple of white guys, would also step up and follow this playbook.
Despite what Jonathan V. Last claimed in his article, Kamala wasn't "soundly rejected by the public". Nor did President Pedochet win by enough of a margin to support his claim of completely unopposed, utter triumph. He barely won. We are only seven months into his autocratic takeover, and his support is cratering, not just in the US but around the globe. At every brief, highly stage managed public appearance, he is more enfeebled. His massive cankles on display, his increasingly bizarre gibber ranting, his childishly gleeful embrace of an indicted war criminal on American soil, his orders to send enlisted troops to police cities, his catastrophic economic policies, his crazy clown makeup, his administration chock full of crackpots, conspiracists, reality TV stars, blackout drunks, racists, Nazis, incompetents, and his determination to protect his pedophile besties Maxwell and Epstein, all combine to turn off voters.
He is only a real threat to the marginalized and the powerless. Their suffering will be unspeakable. The failure of all but a few powerful elected officials to stand up to this loathsome, but essentially weak and stupid monster will not be forgotten.
Save a few exceptions, I've seen very little fight, and mostly surrender when it comes to Democrats and Trump's second regime. So I'll take Newsom, imperfect and all, because at least seems to have risen to the occasion (and no, I don't mean the parody tweets), unlike Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.
Stephen, with regard to the transgender issues that Newsom was discussing with the odious Charlie Kirk in that clip: I was reminded of what you wrote yesterday, about crime in DC:
“If you ignore that a problem exists, people will assume that only Republicans are interested in solving it.”
With all due respect to transgender folks, I’m seeing “transgender women in high school and college sports” as one of those problems we prefer to ignore. Liberals’ justifiable support for transpeople’s civil rights is one thing we can agree on. But like the subjective view of crime in DC, if we at least acknowledge that the women-in-sports issue can come from quarters where there is personal experience and legitimate concern, rather than trying to ignore or deny that there IS a problem, we’d own at least that particular polemic. Because you know Republicans will never be interested in solving it. They’ll just keep using it as one of their many cudgels against everything that’s “woke.”
Well you know what, this is where the Internet Faves need to get in the barrel and stop ceding the airwaves to him. Because people may be liking his conduct now but if he wins the primary there'll be all the clout to be milked out of plying Democrats with FUD. One of the Internet Faves who Says The Things What Democrats Like better get going. Because there is a lot of perverse incentive as you point out.
Democrats are like the GOP in 2013. Primary voters were done with McCain/Romney candidates, but the party elite — particularly Jeb’s donors — refused to accept this reality. I can’t say who the 2028 nominee will be but I can’t imagine it will be someone who didn’t fight. Whitmer did the version of Christie embracing Obama but she didn’t seem to get this
Exactly—these elites don’t see what’s going on with the rank and file. It’s the same attitude that makes Schumer allow a vote on a GOP budget, or talk about egg prices when people are getting kidnapped by masked government thugs. The attitude that makes Fetterman think he can get re-elected.
The masses are going to want someone who fully voices their anger and promises to crush their enemies. “Nice” and wonky won’t get anywhere this cycle.
Alright. But I want to see where the redline for Democrats is on this. When are Newsom's tactics too far? Because I know a lot of people will suddenly gain long memories if he prevails in the general election. That is a prime time to ply Democrats with FUD. And I want to see how Newsom acquits himself when he faces the full might of the fully powered up rightwing media human centipede.
No idea if Newsom can keep this up—he may well fall, or another candidate wises up and does this better than he does. But anyone thinking a “politics of joy” and a campaign based on wonky Warren-esque white papers is going to be as flummoxed as Jeb was.
Not happy with Newsome and his getting in bed with these MAGA creeps but at least he’s not bringing piss to a shit fight.
There’s a whole array of Dem voices that can also be amplified like James Talarico and Crockett out of TX as an example. Hopefully more start to fight back hard.
No, he is the one and only Gavin C. Newsom. We are so grateful for the hope he brings us and the leadership he provides California. He is just what our country needs.
I’m glad Newsom has the looks, platform, personality,and charisma to troll Trump and a draw a parallel between old and busted to new hotness, to steal phrase from Men in Black.
Norms and manners and purity are all fine, but when our country is at risk from “Mango Mussolini”, we have to take our warriors where we can find them. I am 100% behind Newsom.
“I see Governor Abbott sent a bus load of illegal immigrants to my state. Fine, guess what—I just released a bus load of convicted murderers somewhere in his state—I won’t say where—and gave each of them a handgun (turns out Texas loves gun ownership) and a map to each Texas GOP legislator’s house. So please, Greg, keep sending more bus loads here—we have a lot more murderers to release.”
A scene I’d like to see. Make it so these bastards are scared to fuck with you.
Well played!
This is satire right, because I know Newsom never said anything close to that
Yep
There is risk that Trump would withhold disaster aid but fight the bastard anyway, then blame him for withholding the aid. Your constituents will suffer but they’ll know whose fault it was. When we bombed North Vietnam, their people didn’t sit there getting mad at Le Duan for refusing to negotiate—they just hated us.
And let’s rule out any Senate Democrats. They all suck, no exceptions, because they keep Schumer in charge and therefore endorse his wet noodle approach.
I don’t like Newsom, I think he’s untrustworthy, but I see his appeal and there’s an obvious parallel to 2016 when Republicans didn’t trust Trump either but voted for him because they wanted a hammer to crush their enemy.
I too want a fucking hammer right now. Sorry, Gretchen, hiding behind your briefing book—you’re no hammer. Beshear seems like a nice guy, fine go home to your kids. I don’t want to support Newsom but if by 2028 he’s the only one smart enough to run as a hammer and not Jeb Bush himself (“ please read my white paper on how to reform education!”) then I may have to.
And right now Democrats are in danger of losing badly because I’ve never missed voting in an election and even I am right now so disgusted with their weak shit I’m considering sitting out the next one, so what does that say about less regular voters?
Bleak
Completely agree with your premise associating DeSantis using his MAGA platform as governor of solidly MAGA Florida to attack Biden, with Newsome and Pritzker using their Democratic platform as governors of safe blue states to openly attack Trump. I wish more Democratic members of congress, aside from the usual women of color, and a scant couple of white guys, would also step up and follow this playbook.
Despite what Jonathan V. Last claimed in his article, Kamala wasn't "soundly rejected by the public". Nor did President Pedochet win by enough of a margin to support his claim of completely unopposed, utter triumph. He barely won. We are only seven months into his autocratic takeover, and his support is cratering, not just in the US but around the globe. At every brief, highly stage managed public appearance, he is more enfeebled. His massive cankles on display, his increasingly bizarre gibber ranting, his childishly gleeful embrace of an indicted war criminal on American soil, his orders to send enlisted troops to police cities, his catastrophic economic policies, his crazy clown makeup, his administration chock full of crackpots, conspiracists, reality TV stars, blackout drunks, racists, Nazis, incompetents, and his determination to protect his pedophile besties Maxwell and Epstein, all combine to turn off voters.
He is only a real threat to the marginalized and the powerless. Their suffering will be unspeakable. The failure of all but a few powerful elected officials to stand up to this loathsome, but essentially weak and stupid monster will not be forgotten.
Save a few exceptions, I've seen very little fight, and mostly surrender when it comes to Democrats and Trump's second regime. So I'll take Newsom, imperfect and all, because at least seems to have risen to the occasion (and no, I don't mean the parody tweets), unlike Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.
Stephen, with regard to the transgender issues that Newsom was discussing with the odious Charlie Kirk in that clip: I was reminded of what you wrote yesterday, about crime in DC:
“If you ignore that a problem exists, people will assume that only Republicans are interested in solving it.”
With all due respect to transgender folks, I’m seeing “transgender women in high school and college sports” as one of those problems we prefer to ignore. Liberals’ justifiable support for transpeople’s civil rights is one thing we can agree on. But like the subjective view of crime in DC, if we at least acknowledge that the women-in-sports issue can come from quarters where there is personal experience and legitimate concern, rather than trying to ignore or deny that there IS a problem, we’d own at least that particular polemic. Because you know Republicans will never be interested in solving it. They’ll just keep using it as one of their many cudgels against everything that’s “woke.”
Well you know what, this is where the Internet Faves need to get in the barrel and stop ceding the airwaves to him. Because people may be liking his conduct now but if he wins the primary there'll be all the clout to be milked out of plying Democrats with FUD. One of the Internet Faves who Says The Things What Democrats Like better get going. Because there is a lot of perverse incentive as you point out.
Democrats are like the GOP in 2013. Primary voters were done with McCain/Romney candidates, but the party elite — particularly Jeb’s donors — refused to accept this reality. I can’t say who the 2028 nominee will be but I can’t imagine it will be someone who didn’t fight. Whitmer did the version of Christie embracing Obama but she didn’t seem to get this
Exactly—these elites don’t see what’s going on with the rank and file. It’s the same attitude that makes Schumer allow a vote on a GOP budget, or talk about egg prices when people are getting kidnapped by masked government thugs. The attitude that makes Fetterman think he can get re-elected.
The masses are going to want someone who fully voices their anger and promises to crush their enemies. “Nice” and wonky won’t get anywhere this cycle.
Those fools don’t even know how to compete with Newsom on this—no more than Jeb and Marco knew how to compete with Trump.
We don’t want “policy plans” and people acting like it’s 1996. We want a hammer to crush fascists and leave them quivering in the dirt.
Alright. But I want to see where the redline for Democrats is on this. When are Newsom's tactics too far? Because I know a lot of people will suddenly gain long memories if he prevails in the general election. That is a prime time to ply Democrats with FUD. And I want to see how Newsom acquits himself when he faces the full might of the fully powered up rightwing media human centipede.
No idea if Newsom can keep this up—he may well fall, or another candidate wises up and does this better than he does. But anyone thinking a “politics of joy” and a campaign based on wonky Warren-esque white papers is going to be as flummoxed as Jeb was.
Not happy with Newsome and his getting in bed with these MAGA creeps but at least he’s not bringing piss to a shit fight.
There’s a whole array of Dem voices that can also be amplified like James Talarico and Crockett out of TX as an example. Hopefully more start to fight back hard.
No, he is the one and only Gavin C. Newsom. We are so grateful for the hope he brings us and the leadership he provides California. He is just what our country needs.
Ha! Ha! Ha! In his dreams! Ha! Ha! Ha!