I'm guessing then if the Lege is out of season then this is more annoying security theater like the "we're going to have extra armed security on the Subway!" So she's probably chasing reactionary headline-readers in the suburbs like where she's from.
Just to indicate how much of security theater this is, I went to NYC just a few months ago and nobody gave me crap wherever I went for wearing a mask in public. Also there was not the promised heavy use of National Guard; just the usual roving transit police.
Like everything else, a few bad actors will always exploit situations. Fraud will always exist, but I still think we should have food and housing for low and no income people, because I'm not a monster.
Some people will be shitty on the subway, even if they are't Nazis. You have to find & deal out legal reprecussions with those people, and let the public use the public infrastructure, not fuck over people who are just living their lives.
Oh my, did I just say that out loud? And Brando brings up a good point. Are most of the Dems of NY half-assing it because they don't have to work too hard to get voters?
On a different topic, Stephen, you are a master at satisfying phrasing!
What it tells me is the Cuomo problem is more of a systemic problem than just one lousy pol.
When was the last time NY had a governor Democrats could be proud of? I wasn't living there when Patterson was in so haven't much basis for him, Spitzer was kind of an asshole and a thug, Cuomo was a mess, before them you had the Pataki years...
I thought Paterson was alright, he only got part of a term so really couldn't do all that much. Honestly, Mario Cuomo was thought to be very good, at least he was seen as a liberal icon.
All those takes about how awful it was for Tom Suozzi to dare consider challenging Hochul in the 2022 gubernatorial primary have not aged well. Something about New York--they just produce the shittiest Democrats. Maybe it's the "we're a safe blue state so we don't have to actually be competent" attitude.
If the goal is to deter bad actors from using masks to avoid getting caught when they're harassing others or otherwise breaking the law, it'd make a lot more sense to impose a higher penalty for lawbreaking while concealing one's identity, rather than banning masks outright. You could still wear a mask while minding your own business, or wear one while lawfully protesting, but if you wear one while hucking bricks at cabs you get prosecuted for the crime itself with additional penalties for mask-wearing while doing it.
I will say Hochul -> Suozzi is kind of a lateral move. There is a dynamic too in New York State due to the way the economy works here, wherein Upstate is more like West Virginia and has had a lot of loss of vitality from industry, and New York City drives so much. But there's so many influence points that cause friction between the two parts of the state.
Yeah--I think a sensitivity to upstate concerns drives a lot of the self-owns from NY Democrats, this idea that they have to placate the very regions where they're weakest. It just seems there should be a way of serving those regions without adopting their bad faith politics. It's how they wind up with this mess.
It should say something to NY Dems that despite being the second largest blue state they're not leading the way for their party on a national level--governance-wise, they seem to be proceeding more like an embattled party in a swing state.
Well, the NY Democratic Party is often embattled, and some of it is self-inflicted.
The decline dynamic is a very big part of it. Also New York City is not necessarily as progressive as one would think. Doubly so for the many smaller cities upstate. The loss of tax income also helps usher in people who see austerity as an easy solution for things. After all in our history we remember when New York City was denied a federal bailout. So everything's about making sure finances are kept tight, being miserly as possible.
Yes, but your solution uses far too much common sense to address the actual problem, whereas stupid politicians are only interested in performative (useless or counterproductive) solutions.
You may be right, but I don't see how a plan to appeal to the Jewish population in New York State (roughly 7% of the population) (perhaps 20% in New York City), and which makes little sense to the rest of the residents could gain her much traction.
>> "The city’s air quality is improving and doesn’t always smell like a hairy armpit, but air pollution still accounts for six percent of the city’s annual deaths." <<
Holy crap, did I just read that?
Lordy, we need to clean up transportation, electrical generation and industry for a lot more reasons than just climate change.
I'm guessing then if the Lege is out of season then this is more annoying security theater like the "we're going to have extra armed security on the Subway!" So she's probably chasing reactionary headline-readers in the suburbs like where she's from.
Just to indicate how much of security theater this is, I went to NYC just a few months ago and nobody gave me crap wherever I went for wearing a mask in public. Also there was not the promised heavy use of National Guard; just the usual roving transit police.
Wish Hochul would be a lot less reactionary.
As a frequent subway rider with covid vulnerabilities, fuck that.
Like everything else, a few bad actors will always exploit situations. Fraud will always exist, but I still think we should have food and housing for low and no income people, because I'm not a monster.
Some people will be shitty on the subway, even if they are't Nazis. You have to find & deal out legal reprecussions with those people, and let the public use the public infrastructure, not fuck over people who are just living their lives.
Geez louise. Doesn't she have anyone around her who could say, "uhhh, have you considered how this might affect immunocompromised people?"
Good fucking grief🙄
If I want to wear a mask for my health then I shall. Another attempt to take away bodily autonomy by crazy people.
What. An. Idiot.
Oh my, did I just say that out loud? And Brando brings up a good point. Are most of the Dems of NY half-assing it because they don't have to work too hard to get voters?
On a different topic, Stephen, you are a master at satisfying phrasing!
Thanks!
Is it me or is Hochul’s apparent raison d'etre little more than, ‘Making you miss Andrew Cuomo’?
What it tells me is the Cuomo problem is more of a systemic problem than just one lousy pol.
When was the last time NY had a governor Democrats could be proud of? I wasn't living there when Patterson was in so haven't much basis for him, Spitzer was kind of an asshole and a thug, Cuomo was a mess, before them you had the Pataki years...
I thought Paterson was alright, he only got part of a term so really couldn't do all that much. Honestly, Mario Cuomo was thought to be very good, at least he was seen as a liberal icon.
All those takes about how awful it was for Tom Suozzi to dare consider challenging Hochul in the 2022 gubernatorial primary have not aged well. Something about New York--they just produce the shittiest Democrats. Maybe it's the "we're a safe blue state so we don't have to actually be competent" attitude.
If the goal is to deter bad actors from using masks to avoid getting caught when they're harassing others or otherwise breaking the law, it'd make a lot more sense to impose a higher penalty for lawbreaking while concealing one's identity, rather than banning masks outright. You could still wear a mask while minding your own business, or wear one while lawfully protesting, but if you wear one while hucking bricks at cabs you get prosecuted for the crime itself with additional penalties for mask-wearing while doing it.
That's a very good idea!
I will say Hochul -> Suozzi is kind of a lateral move. There is a dynamic too in New York State due to the way the economy works here, wherein Upstate is more like West Virginia and has had a lot of loss of vitality from industry, and New York City drives so much. But there's so many influence points that cause friction between the two parts of the state.
Yeah--I think a sensitivity to upstate concerns drives a lot of the self-owns from NY Democrats, this idea that they have to placate the very regions where they're weakest. It just seems there should be a way of serving those regions without adopting their bad faith politics. It's how they wind up with this mess.
It should say something to NY Dems that despite being the second largest blue state they're not leading the way for their party on a national level--governance-wise, they seem to be proceeding more like an embattled party in a swing state.
Well, the NY Democratic Party is often embattled, and some of it is self-inflicted.
The decline dynamic is a very big part of it. Also New York City is not necessarily as progressive as one would think. Doubly so for the many smaller cities upstate. The loss of tax income also helps usher in people who see austerity as an easy solution for things. After all in our history we remember when New York City was denied a federal bailout. So everything's about making sure finances are kept tight, being miserly as possible.
Very smart idea.
Thanks!
Yes, but your solution uses far too much common sense to address the actual problem, whereas stupid politicians are only interested in performative (useless or counterproductive) solutions.
What this is really about is "Hochul thinks this will score her points with Jewish voters in NY".
You may be right, but I don't see how a plan to appeal to the Jewish population in New York State (roughly 7% of the population) (perhaps 20% in New York City), and which makes little sense to the rest of the residents could gain her much traction.
OTOH, I am definitely not a politician.
Oh, it'll backfire--she's a particularly weak politician! I can't see this winning over Jewish voters.
>> "The city’s air quality is improving and doesn’t always smell like a hairy armpit, but air pollution still accounts for six percent of the city’s annual deaths." <<
Holy crap, did I just read that?
Lordy, we need to clean up transportation, electrical generation and industry for a lot more reasons than just climate change.