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Sherry's avatar

Old entrenched politicians seem horribly out of step with what Americans actually need and want. We need fresher more idealistic politicians. And I’m an old white person who wants more of a cross section of what Americans look like.

Let’s make a delicious stew and not some bland consommé.

Icky Burl's avatar

So, "these days you don’t really have to keep your Nazi inclinations secret to advance politically." even in the Democratic party? I don't trust people who wear notsee tattoos for 13 years and only remove them once a reporter is going to blow the whistle on them. I also do not trust Blackwater operatives. Why do you?

SethTriggs's avatar

I mean in the end if they both win Schumer ought to be happy.

But really if people are always going to be with their feet on Schumer's neck. then why the hell is nobody declaring NOW to run against him and build up their brand?

My suspicion is that the people with the profile in NYS need him to be a shield for them to make difficult decisions so they can protect the purity of their progressive brands. That's one reason online-maligned Hakeem Jeffries doesn't have a challenger promoted.

Because I will say this again; Democrats have already shown that they can dirt out any Democrats they really don't want in office. They easily hounded Joe Biden out of office, and made sure Kamala Harris was stopped (despite the pleas of...strangely enough...Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez). Biden got dogpiled by all kinds of randos we haven't heard from since the election except for...well, Mengele-without-a-medical degree!

So the silence of potential challengers speaks VERY loudly to me. Because when folks are like, "Oh the Dem leadership sucks" like it's some alien construct you can't remove I get just a weeeeee bit contemptuous.

Camm's avatar

Schumer is the worst Democrat minority leader in the history at least the living history of our country. Makes the worst calls, is a power point coward, is beholden to Israel. Schumer claims to represent workers but he is an out of touch upper crust upper New York millionaire. How fucking bad do you gotta be to have Mitch McConnell run rough shod over you? We need to put Pappy Schoom on some museum board seat where he can sip his rose and get happy. He hates this job. He has failed at his job. It would be a fucking disaster if we win in the midterms and capitulator Schoom is leading the Senate. No fucking way. I want a huge contest for leader of the Senate if we win. And it better not be Schumer.

Dave Zimny's avatar

Very interesting analysis of the Senatorial race in my home state of Michigan. As a progressive, of course I'll vote for any Democrat who wins the primary. But in the primary I'll be voting for El-Sayed, if only as a message to Schumer that there is room for real progressives in our big-tent party as well as Neanderthals like Fetterman. True, Michigan isn't Oregon, but I think it will swing blue as part of a nationwide trend this November. The determining factor will be turnout, and Michigan Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents are champing at the bit to cast their votes. If El-Sayed fails in his Senate race, I hope he'll run for the House in 2028.

Late Blooming's avatar

I think he’s likely to be a more successful House than Senate candidate myself. We’ll see.

Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

Too little, too late, Chuck. Time to dump the Vichy Dems.

Cateck's avatar

McMorrow also takes AIPAC money. I'm rooting for El-Sayed. I guess we'll see if Platner really is a progressive or just another Fetterman. I have a feeling we are going to hear more about his Blackwater career once he wins the primary. Schumer should have been out of a job years ago, just based on his deference to an imaginary (republican) couple. He sucks and I'd love for AOC to take his job, except I'd rather she run for President.

Late Blooming's avatar

The “Platner is Fetterman” hand wringing is getting a little tedious. Beyond the fact that they are two white guys running as Dems in purple states, they have little in common.

AOC has to be a senator before she can take Schumer’s job.

Cateck's avatar

I was referring to Fetterman as in "running as a progressive, governing as a republican", which, again, we will see.

AOC running for NY senate was what I was saying, not Senate Minority (hopefully Majority by 2027) leader. Nevermind, he's not up until 2029.

Late Blooming's avatar

Yes, I get that. But beyond white guy Fetterman doing that after a big stroke, there is no storied history of other white-guys-running-as-progressives doing that, and certainly no indication that white guy-running-as-economic-populist Platner will do the same. It’s a little odd people claim he will, considering there are lots of white guy progressives running out there-Matt Dunlap here in Maine to name just one-and no one seems to be saying that about them.

Cateck's avatar

I would go out on a limb and say that Matt Dunlap has neither a nazi tattoo or a Blackwater work history. Not to mention troublesome reddit posts. That is what makes me very wary of Platner. He’s very conservative coded.

Late Blooming's avatar

Well, with all due respect, spend some time in the state, go to his town halls, read his platform. Spend less time digesting out of state sour grape opinion pieces. He is probably a less reliable D vote than Mills would be but what is the point of recruiting different and interesting candidates if we’re just expecting them to be Stepford Wives once they get in office? Frankly, I see Platner more as a left wing Rand Paul than John Fetterman.

And I would also think we as Democrats should get used to a lot more candidates that don’t actnor talk like either AOC or Chuck Schumer or Hakeem Jefferies winning primaries and then general elections. If we want younger people running, well, they grew up with social media and posting every thought and there are going to be a lot of people with that baggage showing up as candidates. Time’s are a-changing, and people’s ideas of who a candidate should be are too.

Late Blooming's avatar

Schumer made a mistake in pressuring Mills to run, and Mills made a mistake in accepting a race in which she had no real interest or, at this point, constituency. I appreciate that she has kept the MAGA wolf at bay here, but no one in Maine (beyond the few long in the tooth and generally female Dem operatives who were running "Platner Loves Rape" ads here for a while) has much interest in seeing her in Washington. It's time to go back to Farmington and play with her grandchildren, which is all she wants to do anyway.

But he might have been correct with backing Haley Stevens, at least in terms of who can win the race. I am obviously not in Michigan and thus not as attuned to the politics there, but it really seems El-Sayed's winning the nomination turns a toss up election into lean Republican, the opposite of what you would hope. And McMorrow *does* give off a whiff of condescension, a problem for a lot of lefties in less-than-progressive places. I am actually more optimistic about keeping Michigan a blue seat than I am my own state will turn out Susan Collins, who just keeps rising.