I watched all his Netflix specials and sadly while he’s a very talented comedian who can be quite hilarious he tends to mine the anti-trans jokes (and as you note some rants that dint even qualify as attempts at jokes) as well as some gross classist shit (disguised as making fun of white people but note he’s only making fun of POOR white people, not rich assholes like Musk and Rogan) which dampens his appeal. It’s his right of course but then he shouldn’t get so pissy when consumers don’t care for it.
He did start at one point saying that trans people deserve to live in safety and dignity but then he goes on to trash them and push the lies about them (eg pretending to be women to they can fondle women, apparently that’s a thing a lot of men fantasize about, let’s not miss the irony of a black man pushing this shit and making allies with the same people who pushed similar lies about black men). I guess he’s just really bothered about liberals scolding him and he won’t be told what to do.
Thing is, he can say whatever he wants, he’s not hurting for paid work, and some fans won’t like it which they also have a right to express. Maybe he shouldn’t let them live rent free in his head and be so triggered that he’s going to spend long stretches of his act on that very tired subject.
His first televised comments on a trans person were about HOW HE HAD SEX WITH THEM. All the hate speech that followed seems to be just him raging against his own desires.
The cycle goes like this: First, the up and coming comedian gains renown for his clever and perceptive jokes about the rich and powerful, and the idiosyncrasies of the public. Then as he becomes rich and famous he starts smoking $75 cigars. Finally, he loses all contact with the public at large and identifies himself as part of the wealthy and detached group that he used to make fun of. His jokes become mean spirited, because he has become mean-spirited as his ego replaces his good sense. Finally, he blames his declining popularity on the public who have become too woke to get his "jokes".
100% describes his "devolution" and that of many other comedians. Once they become rich and famous, the only place left to punch is down and most regular people don't find that entertaining. It has nothing to do with "being woke" or not understanding the "jokes" — it's just objectively not funny and we don't want to listen to a rich asshole being an asshole at regular people's expense who haven't done anything other than try to live in peace.
The time he brought Elon Musk on stage here in SF when he got booed like crazy is the perfect example. They are so far up their own asses and in their own bubbles that they didn't realize the vast majority of the people in the Bay Area hate Elon specifically and tech billionaires generally. And that even includes people who paid to see Chapelle in 2024! "Jokes" about how people are just booing because they're poor and jealous is the most tone deaf response imaginable.
It's a real shame because the old Chapelle was hilarious and one of my favorite comedians. I haven't been able to say that for at least a decade.
It would appear that Dave Chappelle is no better educated than old white, Southern Republican lawmakers when it comes to knowing anything about women's reproduction and anatomy.
And his choice of wording rivals their misogyny: for instance, about one in three births in the U.S. are via c-section, hence no having "to pass through the legs of a woman."
And, even, if like these old white relics playing 'obgyn,' Chappelle believes birth begins shortly after a sperm starts its mission in the vagina (again, "through the legs"), a significant number of births occur without any sperm journey: in vitro fertilization has vastly reduced men's already side character role in pregnancy.
One can only conclude that Chappelle is another transphobic bigot masquerading as an expert and not-funny bully. Let's not forget the true comic's mission is to punch himself or punch up. Punching down just makes you a bully.
A comedian becomes irrelevant when he forgets the lines you never cross. There are NO funny jokes about rape or molestation or racism or murder or marginalizing people. I mean perhaps there are but it’s not the victims you want to laugh at. Hell you can’t even laugh about the perpetrators. Those jokes simply “do not write themselves”.
Well, yes, Mr. Chappelle, if you lie down with bigots, suddenly they (and other people) stop thinking your "Black KKK leader" skit was a joke and that you are one of them.
No qualifiers needed, Chapelle’s ego is bigger than his intelligence. See also, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, the entire Trump administration and I could go on, given the number of stupid egoists who now run our country.
I was sad to hear Chappelle's bigoted jokes several years ago. Stopped watching him then and never looked back. Life is too short to give money to bigots.
Ahhhh the lament of Schrödinger's Comedian. Because if you complain he really was just joking and you're the problem. What happened, were the leopards about to eat his face too?
And Diarrhea Slider Barbie in the picture there is sure shining in her audacity. Given the makeup of the audience when she was breastily bopping her beau's bologna during Beetlejuice...well, she came THIS close to being on the Ultimate Bad List.
"Anti-trans bigots like to conjure up the image of the imposing, muscular man in a dress “posing as a woman” so he can freely abuse women. That seems like an awful lot of work when he could just run for Congress."
Chappelle admits to punching down. That kind of joke is rarely funny, and usually not accurate because they reflect the "comic's" biases rather than what it is true about the marginalized groups that they are targeting. The best jokes punch up and accurately reflect what is true about those in power, or the comic pokes fun at his or her own self.
Oh, NOW I get it. I didn't click through the Macbeth link, so I was puzzled. "Macduff was from his mother's womb untimely ripped" is the line I think...
Man,thank you.
I watched all his Netflix specials and sadly while he’s a very talented comedian who can be quite hilarious he tends to mine the anti-trans jokes (and as you note some rants that dint even qualify as attempts at jokes) as well as some gross classist shit (disguised as making fun of white people but note he’s only making fun of POOR white people, not rich assholes like Musk and Rogan) which dampens his appeal. It’s his right of course but then he shouldn’t get so pissy when consumers don’t care for it.
He did start at one point saying that trans people deserve to live in safety and dignity but then he goes on to trash them and push the lies about them (eg pretending to be women to they can fondle women, apparently that’s a thing a lot of men fantasize about, let’s not miss the irony of a black man pushing this shit and making allies with the same people who pushed similar lies about black men). I guess he’s just really bothered about liberals scolding him and he won’t be told what to do.
Thing is, he can say whatever he wants, he’s not hurting for paid work, and some fans won’t like it which they also have a right to express. Maybe he shouldn’t let them live rent free in his head and be so triggered that he’s going to spend long stretches of his act on that very tired subject.
"It’s possible that Chappelle’s ego is greater than his intelligence." Yuh-huh!
He’s funny that way . . . or maybe not 🤔
Offensive humor when bad people show themselves to be bad is important, but anti-trans reflects his inner fears.
His first televised comments on a trans person were about HOW HE HAD SEX WITH THEM. All the hate speech that followed seems to be just him raging against his own desires.
The cycle goes like this: First, the up and coming comedian gains renown for his clever and perceptive jokes about the rich and powerful, and the idiosyncrasies of the public. Then as he becomes rich and famous he starts smoking $75 cigars. Finally, he loses all contact with the public at large and identifies himself as part of the wealthy and detached group that he used to make fun of. His jokes become mean spirited, because he has become mean-spirited as his ego replaces his good sense. Finally, he blames his declining popularity on the public who have become too woke to get his "jokes".
100% describes his "devolution" and that of many other comedians. Once they become rich and famous, the only place left to punch is down and most regular people don't find that entertaining. It has nothing to do with "being woke" or not understanding the "jokes" — it's just objectively not funny and we don't want to listen to a rich asshole being an asshole at regular people's expense who haven't done anything other than try to live in peace.
The time he brought Elon Musk on stage here in SF when he got booed like crazy is the perfect example. They are so far up their own asses and in their own bubbles that they didn't realize the vast majority of the people in the Bay Area hate Elon specifically and tech billionaires generally. And that even includes people who paid to see Chapelle in 2024! "Jokes" about how people are just booing because they're poor and jealous is the most tone deaf response imaginable.
It's a real shame because the old Chapelle was hilarious and one of my favorite comedians. I haven't been able to say that for at least a decade.
For a good antidote, I can't recommend this clip from James Acaster enough where he talks about how shitty it is when comedians do that and makes fun of them for their bullshit: https://www.tiktok.com/@britishcomedyclipper/video/7395253298535746848?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
It would appear that Dave Chappelle is no better educated than old white, Southern Republican lawmakers when it comes to knowing anything about women's reproduction and anatomy.
And his choice of wording rivals their misogyny: for instance, about one in three births in the U.S. are via c-section, hence no having "to pass through the legs of a woman."
And, even, if like these old white relics playing 'obgyn,' Chappelle believes birth begins shortly after a sperm starts its mission in the vagina (again, "through the legs"), a significant number of births occur without any sperm journey: in vitro fertilization has vastly reduced men's already side character role in pregnancy.
One can only conclude that Chappelle is another transphobic bigot masquerading as an expert and not-funny bully. Let's not forget the true comic's mission is to punch himself or punch up. Punching down just makes you a bully.
A comedian becomes irrelevant when he forgets the lines you never cross. There are NO funny jokes about rape or molestation or racism or murder or marginalizing people. I mean perhaps there are but it’s not the victims you want to laugh at. Hell you can’t even laugh about the perpetrators. Those jokes simply “do not write themselves”.
Well, yes, Mr. Chappelle, if you lie down with bigots, suddenly they (and other people) stop thinking your "Black KKK leader" skit was a joke and that you are one of them.
Funny how that works.
No qualifiers needed, Chapelle’s ego is bigger than his intelligence. See also, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, the entire Trump administration and I could go on, given the number of stupid egoists who now run our country.
The moral of the story: You can take the dad out of Ohio, but you can't take the Ohio out of the dad. I can say that, my father was born in Canton.
I was sad to hear Chappelle's bigoted jokes several years ago. Stopped watching him then and never looked back. Life is too short to give money to bigots.
Ahhhh the lament of Schrödinger's Comedian. Because if you complain he really was just joking and you're the problem. What happened, were the leopards about to eat his face too?
And Diarrhea Slider Barbie in the picture there is sure shining in her audacity. Given the makeup of the audience when she was breastily bopping her beau's bologna during Beetlejuice...well, she came THIS close to being on the Ultimate Bad List.
"Anti-trans bigots like to conjure up the image of the imposing, muscular man in a dress “posing as a woman” so he can freely abuse women. That seems like an awful lot of work when he could just run for Congress."
Now THAT'S a joke!
Chappelle admits to punching down. That kind of joke is rarely funny, and usually not accurate because they reflect the "comic's" biases rather than what it is true about the marginalized groups that they are targeting. The best jokes punch up and accurately reflect what is true about those in power, or the comic pokes fun at his or her own self.
Excellent point about the accuracy of jokes that punch down!
<<“Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. This is a fact.”>>
My three C-section kids would be surprised to learn that.
Me and my brother, both born via C-section, are also surprised to learn that "fact"! So are we just not... human beings on this Earth?
I guess not, so speaketh Dave Chappelle.
Oh, NOW I get it. I didn't click through the Macbeth link, so I was puzzled. "Macduff was from his mother's womb untimely ripped" is the line I think...
Tbf, I didn't watch the link. I don't have two and half hours to spare.
My grandson Knox would also be surprised to learn that.
Yep.