>> His team clearly leaked self-serving background to the press about how Vance was “skeptical” of the war, which might explain why Trump saddled him with a prominent, public role in the Iraq War that blew up in his stupid round face.
Ooooo. Hadn't thought of that. That sounds exactly like something vengeance boy Trump would do. Only one tiny problem: it implies that Trump is actually aware that Iran is not going so well. I would like to believe he can admit this to himself, at least, and is just trying to bluster his way through or out of it, but I often doubt he is even that little bit in touch with reality.
Vance reminds me of Nixon, except not as smart and somehow less scrupulous.
Overcoming a rough childhood but rather than feeling fortunate for having gotten where he is, full of scorn for those who didn’t, and constant hate for those who had it easier. Kissing ass in the most unsubtle ways, no real ability to connect with people and only offering an outlet for their own dark intentions.
A lot has changed in the public gestalt and attention over the past decade. we won't be inheriting the longstanding apathy of the last 30 years...I'm optimistic that the right wing fascist bag of tricks has been played out. the emperor has no clothes. and most important of all? the 'left' is fresh out of our signature patience and assumed niceness.
I think we can safely assert that there is no candidate too depraved, incompetent, or malignant to be the Republican nominee for president. The delusion that it requires competence, a history of alliance with the party values, or an unblemished record, has been blown to smithereens. In the age of social media all former bets are off.
Whatever strange alchemical mix that is now required to rise to the top in the mind of the public cannot be predicted. Voters have elected wife beaters, child molesters, multiply bankrupted conmen, neo-Nazis, thieves, conspiracy theorists, people hated by their own families, all without remorse.
I used to think that the movie Idiocracy was an exaggeration. Now I'm sure that it was not.
The only thing Idiocracy got wrong is that they only predicted the stupidity. In reality, there is a whole lot of malice and cruelty that goes along with it.
We'd actually be better off in an Idiocracy world because, even though they were stupid, they meant well. They actually tried to solve a real problem impacting people (no crops) and listened to the solution when presented with it by Luke Wilson's character (using water instead of Gatorade).
This current bunch doesn't give a shit about solving problems and actively works to create new ones that result in immeasurable harm. They also wouldn't know good advice if it slapped them across the face and they wouldn't take it even if they did.
"Whatever strange alchemical mix that is now required to rise to the top in the mind of the public cannot be predicted."
Well said
Not to wax too optimistic, but the UPSIDE is that we on the left now know DEFINITIVELY that there IS no bottom for right wing filth. They will go as deep into the mud and shit as their perceived leader will allow them. The would rape and murder their own infant children if they knew it would please their master
THERE
IS
NO
BOTTOM
And you don't negotiate, mollycoddle or compromise with a thing that has no bottom. They exist to be ANNIHILATED
I have no faith in the future or American voters. We might run Abraham Lincoln back from the dead and they still might vote for Vance. Hell, they might vote for Vance because Lincoln fought the Confederacy.
Not a call to despair or do nothing, but just what seems to be reality.
This man is so repellent that he could run against an old beat up sofa and lose. Rethuglicans know this so he’d probably lose the primary and wouldn’t be nominated. Don’t be surprised if they throw Theil as the candidate.
On the other hand, Republicans always know the assignment in the fall and will always make sure they vote, and Democrats are always about Charisma™ and Saying the Pretty Things What Democrats Like in Every Situation.
To achieve what the unreconstructed among us want only requires entropy. This is also why the vast majority of their Congressional reps are essentially social media influencers; all they have to do is suck at their actual jobs. If you replaced each and every one of them with a fire hydrant it would achieve the same ends.
Democrats require actual legislators because doing the things we want typically requires statute. Think about Mamdani. He actually knows what he's doing as a manager. He's not a social media influencer first.
"Of course, the worst thing that could happen for Republicans (and liberal democracy) is that Vance actually wins because Democrats stupidly nominate someone who makes Mike Dukakis look like Barack Obama. That’s a doom loop we need to break."
Schumer and Jeffries are feverishly coming up with lists of candidates as we speak. The top of which is probably Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney.
I have been rubbing my hands with glee, like a cartoon villain, just waiting to enjoy the spectacle of Vance running for president, while Trump throws gigantic tantrums. As long as Trump is alive, he won't allow anyone else to be president. Anyone in his party who tries to run will be forced to run against a Democrat, and MAGA orcs energized to violence by Trump's behavior and comments. Trump will force a shitshow for Republican candidates for any office.
“Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis?” Vance asked, initiating his own sociopathic dialogue with an absent Pope Leo. “
Is this his version of Clint Eastwood talking to a chair with a rhetorical Obama sitting in it except this time is Vance and its a couch?
JD Vance isn't even liked by his neighbors! He's supposedly leaving his neighborhood and moving out into the richy burbs where he isn't in anyone's way (every time he comes home, he insists on arriving at 5pm, blocks up the freeways and then they close down all the roads by his home) yet he persists. But Peter Thiel has sunk a lot of time and money in him; I don't know if the Trump stench is enough to stop that.
>> His team clearly leaked self-serving background to the press about how Vance was “skeptical” of the war, which might explain why Trump saddled him with a prominent, public role in the Iraq War that blew up in his stupid round face.
Ooooo. Hadn't thought of that. That sounds exactly like something vengeance boy Trump would do. Only one tiny problem: it implies that Trump is actually aware that Iran is not going so well. I would like to believe he can admit this to himself, at least, and is just trying to bluster his way through or out of it, but I often doubt he is even that little bit in touch with reality.
Vance reminds me of Nixon, except not as smart and somehow less scrupulous.
Overcoming a rough childhood but rather than feeling fortunate for having gotten where he is, full of scorn for those who didn’t, and constant hate for those who had it easier. Kissing ass in the most unsubtle ways, no real ability to connect with people and only offering an outlet for their own dark intentions.
A lot has changed in the public gestalt and attention over the past decade. we won't be inheriting the longstanding apathy of the last 30 years...I'm optimistic that the right wing fascist bag of tricks has been played out. the emperor has no clothes. and most important of all? the 'left' is fresh out of our signature patience and assumed niceness.
I think we can safely assert that there is no candidate too depraved, incompetent, or malignant to be the Republican nominee for president. The delusion that it requires competence, a history of alliance with the party values, or an unblemished record, has been blown to smithereens. In the age of social media all former bets are off.
Whatever strange alchemical mix that is now required to rise to the top in the mind of the public cannot be predicted. Voters have elected wife beaters, child molesters, multiply bankrupted conmen, neo-Nazis, thieves, conspiracy theorists, people hated by their own families, all without remorse.
I used to think that the movie Idiocracy was an exaggeration. Now I'm sure that it was not.
The only thing Idiocracy got wrong is that they only predicted the stupidity. In reality, there is a whole lot of malice and cruelty that goes along with it.
We'd actually be better off in an Idiocracy world because, even though they were stupid, they meant well. They actually tried to solve a real problem impacting people (no crops) and listened to the solution when presented with it by Luke Wilson's character (using water instead of Gatorade).
This current bunch doesn't give a shit about solving problems and actively works to create new ones that result in immeasurable harm. They also wouldn't know good advice if it slapped them across the face and they wouldn't take it even if they did.
Yup. Hanlon's razor doesn't apply anymore. Now we have Trump's razor: never attribute to stupidity what is more easily explained by malice.
True, True, True!
"Whatever strange alchemical mix that is now required to rise to the top in the mind of the public cannot be predicted."
Well said
Not to wax too optimistic, but the UPSIDE is that we on the left now know DEFINITIVELY that there IS no bottom for right wing filth. They will go as deep into the mud and shit as their perceived leader will allow them. The would rape and murder their own infant children if they knew it would please their master
THERE
IS
NO
BOTTOM
And you don't negotiate, mollycoddle or compromise with a thing that has no bottom. They exist to be ANNIHILATED
I have no faith in the future or American voters. We might run Abraham Lincoln back from the dead and they still might vote for Vance. Hell, they might vote for Vance because Lincoln fought the Confederacy.
Not a call to despair or do nothing, but just what seems to be reality.
This man is so repellent that he could run against an old beat up sofa and lose. Rethuglicans know this so he’d probably lose the primary and wouldn’t be nominated. Don’t be surprised if they throw Theil as the candidate.
Or musk.
On the other hand, Republicans always know the assignment in the fall and will always make sure they vote, and Democrats are always about Charisma™ and Saying the Pretty Things What Democrats Like in Every Situation.
To achieve what the unreconstructed among us want only requires entropy. This is also why the vast majority of their Congressional reps are essentially social media influencers; all they have to do is suck at their actual jobs. If you replaced each and every one of them with a fire hydrant it would achieve the same ends.
Democrats require actual legislators because doing the things we want typically requires statute. Think about Mamdani. He actually knows what he's doing as a manager. He's not a social media influencer first.
"Of course, the worst thing that could happen for Republicans (and liberal democracy) is that Vance actually wins because Democrats stupidly nominate someone who makes Mike Dukakis look like Barack Obama. That’s a doom loop we need to break."
Schumer and Jeffries are feverishly coming up with lists of candidates as we speak. The top of which is probably Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney.
I have been rubbing my hands with glee, like a cartoon villain, just waiting to enjoy the spectacle of Vance running for president, while Trump throws gigantic tantrums. As long as Trump is alive, he won't allow anyone else to be president. Anyone in his party who tries to run will be forced to run against a Democrat, and MAGA orcs energized to violence by Trump's behavior and comments. Trump will force a shitshow for Republican candidates for any office.
“Was God on the side of the Americans who liberated France from the Nazis?” Vance asked, initiating his own sociopathic dialogue with an absent Pope Leo. “
Is this his version of Clint Eastwood talking to a chair with a rhetorical Obama sitting in it except this time is Vance and its a couch?
Nah, Vance wouldn't be yelling at the couch. He'd be whispering sweet nothings and getting ready for round two while Usha seethes in the background.
Word on the street is that Vance's couches like it on the 'rough side'...
Oof, watch out for splinters.
JD Vance isn't even liked by his neighbors! He's supposedly leaving his neighborhood and moving out into the richy burbs where he isn't in anyone's way (every time he comes home, he insists on arriving at 5pm, blocks up the freeways and then they close down all the roads by his home) yet he persists. But Peter Thiel has sunk a lot of time and money in him; I don't know if the Trump stench is enough to stop that.