I’m reserving full support of Large Marge for now. People CAN have a come to Jesus moment I’m just not sure this is hers. Still getting the support of her, Handy Oakley and Panty checking Mace to release the files has shocked me.
exactly right. There IS no reason to 'take her at her word'. Its simply not a 'requirement'...Its pointless to fret over whether we should or not. just look for the actions that she takes that either supports or defies her 'words'...And that's not even a dis. Its applicable to all political leaders
I think MTG is at this point behaving much like ‘a woman scorned.’ Despite her obsessive loyalty, Donny denied her a role in his cabinet, then humiliated her across social media. It’s been suggested that she may have been sexually assaulted at some time in the past, and that the Epstein victims’ tales triggered an epiphany for her, as they seemingly did for Nancy Mace.
She’s now turning all her nastiness and venom on Donny for his brutal, public rejection of her, because she’s a vindictive POS. If she wants to play it this way, by rubbing his nose in it and playing nice with the Democrats, I say hey, why not. As you point out, Stephen, it’s preferable to have her working against Donny instead of pathetically doing or saying anything to get his attention and a dismissive pat on the head.
I draw a bright line between applauding a supporting vote from MTG on a specific issue on one hand, and on the other hand I conclude that she is a dangerous and vindictive and anti-democratic power monger who can never be trusted.
She doesn't have to be considered anything other than the corrosive figure that she clearly is, and the sooner national politics is rid of her (and her ilk) for good, the better off we will all be.
yep. She will ALWAYS be a liability and a chaos agent. Best to steer clear. You know, sometimes its best to just say nothing Democratic leaders REALLY don't have to weigh in...Although I LOVED what AOC had to say about MTG's sudden change of heart...AOC gets it.
If MTG is anti-Trump in any way, I'm good with it. I support, for example, The Bulwark, though I'd probably disagree with 90 percent of their actual policy positions, due to their anti-Trump, pro-democracy stance. JVL thinks Reagan was the best President in his lifetime. Even not leading to Trump, Reagan destroyed the middle-class and implemented our oligarchy with his supply-side economics, tax cuts for the wealthy, and union-busting. Consequently, except for Trump, Reagan is the worst President of my lifetime. And, given the choice, I'll always vote or support the most progressive candidate. But I welcome any cracks in the Trump monarchy.
I’m perplexed by whatever her angle is—it’s not just Epstein, she also publicly broke with her party on health care funding. I don’t buy the “she’s preparing for a post Trump future” because the post Trump GOP isn’t going to be into health care funding. So who knows what she’s up to.
I do know that right now everything she is saying undermines GOP messaging and reminds everyone how quickly Trump turns on his most loyal allies, so good for her. And liberals should remember that no one is literally trying to recruit her into the party or change our legislative priorities for her, so we can hold off on the “how dare you open our tent which is so big we control none of the government and a minority of states” purity shit. It’s not a good look, not because we hope to convert MAGAs like Greene to liberalism but because there are a lot of people more moderate or on the cusp who we shouldn’t be sending the message “no one new is welcome here, you cannot redeem yourself, wow I’m so proud of my liberal bona fides I wrenched my shoulder patting myself on the back.”
We could just say we agree with the things she says that benefit our side. Republicans happily do this when the shoe is on the other foot. We don’t need to freak out about putting her in charge of the DNC.
The health care funding has to do with her adult children, whose premiums are spiking because they are on Obamacare. Sure, an issue hits loved ones before she gets it, but at least she gets it. Some magas never do get it,
I tend to fall on the JVL side-Greene really does believe some of the absolutely lunatic shit she has spouted over the years ("space lasers") and expected Donald Trump to pull the curtain on it all. When he didn't-when he actively worked against it-it seems she truly felt betrayed. At least she owned up that she played a role in bringing us where we are, but honestly IMO it was secondary to what the cretins at the Lincoln Project did to the discourse and social fabric over three plus decades that led *directly* to Trump and for which they refuse to even acknowledge, much less apologize. Irredeemable? No one is irredeemable (Sunday school taught me that much) but redemption doesn't happen without without sincere repentance for bad acts and some way of atoning for them. MTG seems miles ahead of some of these guys in that respect.
You made me think of another possibility why she’s siding with the Dems. Perhaps she’s the only one who grasps that Dems will one day be back in power and hopes that when they fully investigate the congress members involvement in J6 that this could save her ass. If so she seems to be an outlier at seeing the light hoping for grace I the time comes. Long shot I know. But given that most MAGA cannot see beyond the end of their own noses and think only of themselves Marge thought fully ahead of her political career.
I’m reserving full support of Large Marge for now. People CAN have a come to Jesus moment I’m just not sure this is hers. Still getting the support of her, Handy Oakley and Panty checking Mace to release the files has shocked me.
I don’t mind sitting back and watching them eat each other, but I won’t be inviting her over for dinner. Ever. Also, please, please call her Piggy
Nope, not calling her, or any woman Piggy, no matter their beliefs or what they look like.
Well, I want to see what she does, not what she says. 'cause I've seen this movie before. Very good points in this article.
Same here.
Bingo! She's saying a lot of reasonable stuff right now, and I hope that translates into reasonable actions.
exactly right. There IS no reason to 'take her at her word'. Its simply not a 'requirement'...Its pointless to fret over whether we should or not. just look for the actions that she takes that either supports or defies her 'words'...And that's not even a dis. Its applicable to all political leaders
I think MTG is at this point behaving much like ‘a woman scorned.’ Despite her obsessive loyalty, Donny denied her a role in his cabinet, then humiliated her across social media. It’s been suggested that she may have been sexually assaulted at some time in the past, and that the Epstein victims’ tales triggered an epiphany for her, as they seemingly did for Nancy Mace.
She’s now turning all her nastiness and venom on Donny for his brutal, public rejection of her, because she’s a vindictive POS. If she wants to play it this way, by rubbing his nose in it and playing nice with the Democrats, I say hey, why not. As you point out, Stephen, it’s preferable to have her working against Donny instead of pathetically doing or saying anything to get his attention and a dismissive pat on the head.
I draw a bright line between applauding a supporting vote from MTG on a specific issue on one hand, and on the other hand I conclude that she is a dangerous and vindictive and anti-democratic power monger who can never be trusted.
She doesn't have to be considered anything other than the corrosive figure that she clearly is, and the sooner national politics is rid of her (and her ilk) for good, the better off we will all be.
yep. She will ALWAYS be a liability and a chaos agent. Best to steer clear. You know, sometimes its best to just say nothing Democratic leaders REALLY don't have to weigh in...Although I LOVED what AOC had to say about MTG's sudden change of heart...AOC gets it.
If MTG is anti-Trump in any way, I'm good with it. I support, for example, The Bulwark, though I'd probably disagree with 90 percent of their actual policy positions, due to their anti-Trump, pro-democracy stance. JVL thinks Reagan was the best President in his lifetime. Even not leading to Trump, Reagan destroyed the middle-class and implemented our oligarchy with his supply-side economics, tax cuts for the wealthy, and union-busting. Consequently, except for Trump, Reagan is the worst President of my lifetime. And, given the choice, I'll always vote or support the most progressive candidate. But I welcome any cracks in the Trump monarchy.
As always, Empty G will do whatever is best for Empty G. She's a pathological opportunist.
I’m perplexed by whatever her angle is—it’s not just Epstein, she also publicly broke with her party on health care funding. I don’t buy the “she’s preparing for a post Trump future” because the post Trump GOP isn’t going to be into health care funding. So who knows what she’s up to.
I do know that right now everything she is saying undermines GOP messaging and reminds everyone how quickly Trump turns on his most loyal allies, so good for her. And liberals should remember that no one is literally trying to recruit her into the party or change our legislative priorities for her, so we can hold off on the “how dare you open our tent which is so big we control none of the government and a minority of states” purity shit. It’s not a good look, not because we hope to convert MAGAs like Greene to liberalism but because there are a lot of people more moderate or on the cusp who we shouldn’t be sending the message “no one new is welcome here, you cannot redeem yourself, wow I’m so proud of my liberal bona fides I wrenched my shoulder patting myself on the back.”
We could just say we agree with the things she says that benefit our side. Republicans happily do this when the shoe is on the other foot. We don’t need to freak out about putting her in charge of the DNC.
The health care funding has to do with her adult children, whose premiums are spiking because they are on Obamacare. Sure, an issue hits loved ones before she gets it, but at least she gets it. Some magas never do get it,
I tend to fall on the JVL side-Greene really does believe some of the absolutely lunatic shit she has spouted over the years ("space lasers") and expected Donald Trump to pull the curtain on it all. When he didn't-when he actively worked against it-it seems she truly felt betrayed. At least she owned up that she played a role in bringing us where we are, but honestly IMO it was secondary to what the cretins at the Lincoln Project did to the discourse and social fabric over three plus decades that led *directly* to Trump and for which they refuse to even acknowledge, much less apologize. Irredeemable? No one is irredeemable (Sunday school taught me that much) but redemption doesn't happen without without sincere repentance for bad acts and some way of atoning for them. MTG seems miles ahead of some of these guys in that respect.
You made me think of another possibility why she’s siding with the Dems. Perhaps she’s the only one who grasps that Dems will one day be back in power and hopes that when they fully investigate the congress members involvement in J6 that this could save her ass. If so she seems to be an outlier at seeing the light hoping for grace I the time comes. Long shot I know. But given that most MAGA cannot see beyond the end of their own noses and think only of themselves Marge thought fully ahead of her political career.