I suppose the only downside to Trump shuffling off this mortal coil would be that for however long it took Vance to get a VP confirmed and sworn in, Pastor Mike Johnson would be one heartbeat away from making America Saudi Arabia for Jesus.
Vance doesn't have the grip on the cult that Trump does. Not sure how he can be "worse" when MAGA will have its own identity crisis once Trump's gone. They'll be like the Democrats are now - scattered. And other Republicans with ambition who were once scared of Trump won't be as nervous to challenge JD. Bring on the big beautiful day!
Not only does JDVance lack the charisma to command his own cult of personality; everyone in the USA, inside and outside of government, hates his guts. His skeevy, backstabbing ways earned him no friends and plenty of enemies during his whole two years in the US Senate, so good luck dealing with Congress, JD.
Without their leader, the MAGA cult will fracture into pieces. It's already well on its way. Oh sure, when Tr*mp finally croaks, we’ll have the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth and a whole slew of new batshit conspiracy theories from the MAGAts who will mourn their martyr, but fuck them. Plus, does anyone think this crowd will accept JD’s brown-skinned wife as their First Lady? They can’t bear the thought of Women of Color even existing, let alone allow one to do the WH Christmas decorations.
The death of Tr*mp will also free Congressional Republican zombies from their perceived duty to knee-jerkedly rubber-stamp everything that issues from the Oval Office, and once they’re free at last, the pit of MAGA snakes in DC will gleefully proceed to eat their own. Well, that’s my best-case scenario.
I admit to being “one of those” who was rooting for the devil. JD Vance has zero redeeming qualities but let’s not fool ourselves. These are only puppets for the evil cabal that’s destroying our democracy, none of whom care about winning in the judicial system, just hoping to gum it up so badly that it all comes tumbling down. Still, he can’t drum up Christ like devotion amongst MAGA and that may be the key in the midterms.
I just hope he gets to share in the decline and torment he wishes upon us. So many reasons though, like the specific attacks on Black-led cities, the leverage of racism in his successful sadopopulist campaign. The now extrajudicial execution of random people on small watercraft in international waters. The feting of a traitor who attacked the Capitol in the service of overthrowing the government to install him.
Definitely going to get myself a sushi boat on that very day though.
Ah, thanks for the Barnabas quote! My mom was a FAN with the Dark Shadows magazine, tie in novels, and daily viewings - she had a HUGE crush on John Karlen, for some reason.
ANYHOW...I don't think a Vance presidency would be worse. He is not the cult leader. The cult dies without the leader. Oh, sure, we'll still have the same racist shitheads who elected Trump, and the enablers, but it'll lack zeal. Already, Trump has lost a lot of his own luster, and I'm not just talking about his plaster flat make up.
Vance is a phony - Trump, love him or hate him (hate, on this side) is who he is. Vance? Who the hell knows? He also has that mincing little condescending tone. He's a liar but not even an entertaining one.
To paraphrase my favorite spaceman, John Crichton (Farscape): He's an obnoxious gasbag. Who's gonna shell out for that?
Trump really brings the worst out of people, and that includes many of us, who are out of options and down to "why won't this fucker just die already?"
And a Jaydee presidency could indeed be worse (though possibly short-lived), because it would mean a full-blown broligarchy.
I believe that if Trump died (and assuming I survive the 6 month long celebratory parties) and JD Vance become president the republican party would fracture into multiple factions all vying for power. The republican party would become the party of chaos. I think it extremely unlikely that Vance could corral enough support to lead effectively or win a next election. The cult of Trump is all the MAGATs see and they would no longer have a flag bearer to carry on the destruction we have endured so far. My question is: Could the democrats get their shit together enough to take control and keep it?
Even though I don't drink much, I have a bottle of champagne chilling in the fridge, ready for the happy event of trump's death. Yes, I will celebrate his entrance into Hell, and not into the first circle (Limbo, which isn't bad at all - lots of cool people are there, like Horace and most likely JFK. Not Jimmy Carter - he's in Heaven, reunited with his beloved Rosalynn), but in the lowest circle, with Brutus, Cassius, and Judas.
Will it be bad with President Vance? Yes, but I am hoping for less bad than with trump.
I’ll buy the best bottle of champagne I can afford when he does finally kick off, but if I already had one chilling in the fridge in anticipation of that glorious day I’d have drained it at least 10 times by now.
His death would create a period of instability and vulnerability that could really be taken advantage of. Then ask yourself this. Has there ever been a fascist dictatorship without the charismatic leader who started it still leading it. Mussolini's fascist state ended when Mussolini was killed. Franco's fascist state ended when Franco died, Same with Hitler obviously. I can't think of a single continuous fascist state that has survived the end of the dictator who started the whole thing in motion. I would wager that the true defining feature of fascism is the cult of personality aspect. Without that cult figurehead, something in the dynamic is going to be very different. JD Vance is a fool and in the eyes of Maga a sissy boy. he would be laughably easy to troll and mock. Can you imagine Donald Trump ever agreeing to be second in command to anyone? That's exactly what JD Vance is. And someone like that can't be a leader in the eyes of the extreme right
Scary thing is China's already taking advantage. Every action of Maladministration 2.0 is indistinguishable from a colonial power looting a territory for spare parts and weakening it.
The cult thing definitely gives me pause though. It is also a death cult. Who knows what terrible things could happen. To that end, a Jizzy Divan presidency is the least of my fears.
I hope it's true, but remember this is a cult that believes in supernatural things. Trump could well live on after death, with cultists receiving instructions from him in dreams and seeing his image on toast. I'm afraid we'll never get rid of him.
I suppose the only downside to Trump shuffling off this mortal coil would be that for however long it took Vance to get a VP confirmed and sworn in, Pastor Mike Johnson would be one heartbeat away from making America Saudi Arabia for Jesus.
Vance doesn't have the grip on the cult that Trump does. Not sure how he can be "worse" when MAGA will have its own identity crisis once Trump's gone. They'll be like the Democrats are now - scattered. And other Republicans with ambition who were once scared of Trump won't be as nervous to challenge JD. Bring on the big beautiful day!
Not only does JDVance lack the charisma to command his own cult of personality; everyone in the USA, inside and outside of government, hates his guts. His skeevy, backstabbing ways earned him no friends and plenty of enemies during his whole two years in the US Senate, so good luck dealing with Congress, JD.
Without their leader, the MAGA cult will fracture into pieces. It's already well on its way. Oh sure, when Tr*mp finally croaks, we’ll have the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth and a whole slew of new batshit conspiracy theories from the MAGAts who will mourn their martyr, but fuck them. Plus, does anyone think this crowd will accept JD’s brown-skinned wife as their First Lady? They can’t bear the thought of Women of Color even existing, let alone allow one to do the WH Christmas decorations.
The death of Tr*mp will also free Congressional Republican zombies from their perceived duty to knee-jerkedly rubber-stamp everything that issues from the Oval Office, and once they’re free at last, the pit of MAGA snakes in DC will gleefully proceed to eat their own. Well, that’s my best-case scenario.
I like the way that you think!
I admit to being “one of those” who was rooting for the devil. JD Vance has zero redeeming qualities but let’s not fool ourselves. These are only puppets for the evil cabal that’s destroying our democracy, none of whom care about winning in the judicial system, just hoping to gum it up so badly that it all comes tumbling down. Still, he can’t drum up Christ like devotion amongst MAGA and that may be the key in the midterms.
Great article.
I just hope he gets to share in the decline and torment he wishes upon us. So many reasons though, like the specific attacks on Black-led cities, the leverage of racism in his successful sadopopulist campaign. The now extrajudicial execution of random people on small watercraft in international waters. The feting of a traitor who attacked the Capitol in the service of overthrowing the government to install him.
Definitely going to get myself a sushi boat on that very day though.
Ah, thanks for the Barnabas quote! My mom was a FAN with the Dark Shadows magazine, tie in novels, and daily viewings - she had a HUGE crush on John Karlen, for some reason.
ANYHOW...I don't think a Vance presidency would be worse. He is not the cult leader. The cult dies without the leader. Oh, sure, we'll still have the same racist shitheads who elected Trump, and the enablers, but it'll lack zeal. Already, Trump has lost a lot of his own luster, and I'm not just talking about his plaster flat make up.
Vance is a phony - Trump, love him or hate him (hate, on this side) is who he is. Vance? Who the hell knows? He also has that mincing little condescending tone. He's a liar but not even an entertaining one.
To paraphrase my favorite spaceman, John Crichton (Farscape): He's an obnoxious gasbag. Who's gonna shell out for that?
That fucker is going to live past one hundred. I certainly won’t be sad when god mercifully removes him from being able to terrorize us though.
I've thought of that, but Vance and his owners won't wait that long.
Honestly I hope you’re right. I’m no Vance fan but I’d rather him and the idiots in SV be in charge of the opposition than Trump.
Trump really brings the worst out of people, and that includes many of us, who are out of options and down to "why won't this fucker just die already?"
And a Jaydee presidency could indeed be worse (though possibly short-lived), because it would mean a full-blown broligarchy.
He really does bring out the worst in people - he's our collective Id. All our evil thoughts and hateful feelings.
I believe that if Trump died (and assuming I survive the 6 month long celebratory parties) and JD Vance become president the republican party would fracture into multiple factions all vying for power. The republican party would become the party of chaos. I think it extremely unlikely that Vance could corral enough support to lead effectively or win a next election. The cult of Trump is all the MAGATs see and they would no longer have a flag bearer to carry on the destruction we have endured so far. My question is: Could the democrats get their shit together enough to take control and keep it?
The only conflict I feel is between my desire his regime fails as soon as possible and he suffers as much as possible.
He is one man. He cannot be in shrieking agony long enough to atone for what he has done.
Even though I don't drink much, I have a bottle of champagne chilling in the fridge, ready for the happy event of trump's death. Yes, I will celebrate his entrance into Hell, and not into the first circle (Limbo, which isn't bad at all - lots of cool people are there, like Horace and most likely JFK. Not Jimmy Carter - he's in Heaven, reunited with his beloved Rosalynn), but in the lowest circle, with Brutus, Cassius, and Judas.
Will it be bad with President Vance? Yes, but I am hoping for less bad than with trump.
Love the "Dark Shadows" clip at the end!
I’ll buy the best bottle of champagne I can afford when he does finally kick off, but if I already had one chilling in the fridge in anticipation of that glorious day I’d have drained it at least 10 times by now.
His death would create a period of instability and vulnerability that could really be taken advantage of. Then ask yourself this. Has there ever been a fascist dictatorship without the charismatic leader who started it still leading it. Mussolini's fascist state ended when Mussolini was killed. Franco's fascist state ended when Franco died, Same with Hitler obviously. I can't think of a single continuous fascist state that has survived the end of the dictator who started the whole thing in motion. I would wager that the true defining feature of fascism is the cult of personality aspect. Without that cult figurehead, something in the dynamic is going to be very different. JD Vance is a fool and in the eyes of Maga a sissy boy. he would be laughably easy to troll and mock. Can you imagine Donald Trump ever agreeing to be second in command to anyone? That's exactly what JD Vance is. And someone like that can't be a leader in the eyes of the extreme right
North Korea transitioned from Kim Il-sung to Kim Jong-il to Kim Jong-un
Scary thing is China's already taking advantage. Every action of Maladministration 2.0 is indistinguishable from a colonial power looting a territory for spare parts and weakening it.
The cult thing definitely gives me pause though. It is also a death cult. Who knows what terrible things could happen. To that end, a Jizzy Divan presidency is the least of my fears.
Good point about no fascist dictatorship lasting once the charismatic leader is dead.That gives us all hope!
😀. In regardless, something about the dynamic of this movement will change. And it's during that change that windows of opportunity can open.
I hope it's true, but remember this is a cult that believes in supernatural things. Trump could well live on after death, with cultists receiving instructions from him in dreams and seeing his image on toast. I'm afraid we'll never get rid of him.
And then there is a eye, Christ only knows what they can do with that technology these days. Lol
I'll settle for a long, painful, miserable decline. Long enough for him to see how much he is hated over and over again.
Well stated. And an excellent Dark Shadows quote.