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Biff52 Lost Canadian's avatar

ICE Barbie=sexist.

Quiet, Piggy=not sexist.

Got it.

Jana Linderman's avatar

Nothing Donald says is “honest” in the standard sense of that word. Everything is a reality show style performance and language is deployed in a purely transactional way. When he’s insulting, it’s meant to shock and garner attention, and often also as an assertion of power.

Incidentally, this is the same way men like Bill Maher deploy insults, and why they get so worked up when other people respond with disapproval. If free speech entitles him to call a woman “piggy” then I’m entitled to both think and say in response that he’s an ass. My disapproval doesn’t stop him from speaking, but it denies him the power/status that he sees as his due. He doesn’t like Trump’s “honesty” because there is none. He likes the displays of dominance. It would be more honest if he could just admit that.

Greg's avatar

Bill Maher says things just to piss off liberals and get attention. He never goes the same length to piss off the fascists, because he does have some instinct for self preservation, i.e. he is a moral coward and a piss ant.

Fuck if I know about Fetterman, he's a cipher to me, but I believe he is also one who needs constant attention in order to function. For what purpose? Here's me shrugging my shoulders.

The one thing I'd say about Trump's supporters in general - 98 % of them are marks, and 2 % of them are shaving the other 98 % on grift and cons. If it ended there I'd be fine, but now Trump and his criminal cohort have access to the US Treasury, so now we're all getting shaved.

Mother fuckers. Gratuitous cursing just because after I wrote that now I'm pissed.

BrandoG's avatar

Isnt there room for someone who can be “real”—that is have human reactions to things rather than overly guarded, prepared statements that ran through a team of advisers—but without being a sick, mentally unstable freak? I don’t admire anything about Trump as those two assholes apparently do (wait til Keystone Lurch finds out what Trump says about him and his wife) but Trump did show us that voters are tired of politicians who always sound like they checked with their team before expressing their thoughts on something. (Yes you do want a leader to talk to advisers before going off half cocked when it’s a complicated issue, but we also want to see what they THINK on their own from time to time).

Sun's avatar
May 20Edited

‘Honesty’? I do not think that word means what Maher thinks it means.

Furiouser and Furiouser's avatar

This is the definition of a first-world problem, but I get irritated because every time I watch John Oliver, when it’s over HBO decides I want to watch Bill Maher and starts playing it automatically. Just that insipid intro music makes me furious. I haven’t watched that self-indulgent, arrogant woman-hater for at least 10 years, maybe longer. Fix your algorithm, HBO.

Lucius's avatar

It's probably working just as intended.

Lupatrian's avatar

Our entire federal government, all branches, are presently unconstitutional/in violation of the Constitution. Can we therefore fall back to state constitutions? The Federal Constitution gives states a great deal of autonomy to protect the Republic. Because of our unprecedented situation, this may fit within the constitutional framework.

Linda1961 is proudly woke's avatar

Interesting that trump's admirers never address his clearly thin skin. trump can dish it out, but never take it. Or maybe they consider his whining when others tell the truth about him part of his "refreshing honesty."

KO in LA's avatar

After some transgression as a kid, I remember my mother explaining to my sister and me that there was a good angel on one shoulder urging us toward good and a bad angel on the other shoulder tempting us toward bad. The Trump lovers are on team Bad Angel, and are gleefully celebrating its unleashed freedom.

Sherry's avatar

“Wow, total honesty.” = Them being forgiven for being misogynistic assholes. No you can’t say the word retard or pussy in politics or polite society. Just go ahead and show what a real POS you are and freely the N word. Is that the next move there?

I’m sorry I gave $$ to Fetterman’s campaign. Not sorry that I never watched the smug asshole Maher.

Old Man Shadow's avatar

I think are certain men who internalized that masculinity and manhood required bullying. Bullying wasn't cruelty in this mindset, but necessary 'tough love' to toughen up the weak and teach boys how to become men. Bullying was strength. It was toughness. It was love.

Being strong was not seen as lifting people up, pulling them up the cliff, but berating that they couldn't make the climb on their own, that they were weak and needed to work harder. Sure the person thinking this was probably born on top of the cliff, but that was hard work.

And some (mostly guys, but some women) can't get that mindset out of their noggins. They can't see strength was helping others. It has to be posing, bullying, intimidation.

And they hate the idea that manhood doesn't require this bullying, posturing, weak kid acting what he thinks is strong routine. Without it, they feel feminized (and to this group of guys, there is nothing more terrifying and icky than perceived feminine qualities.)

Guys like Fetterman and Maher are a lost cause. Vote him out. Tune him out.

SethTriggs's avatar

There's a lot of money and clout in being professionally credulous. Really the incentive structure for people to fete America's Pilonidal Cyst—even though like everyone he will eventually betray them—is too strong.

Stephen Bero's avatar

The Internet boosted the phenomenon known as the "moral holiday," of which Stevenson's novella is a dramatic example. From the Internet, the moral holiday spilled into real life, where it is now no longer a "holiday" but an everyday occurrence, sad to say.

Pope Buck I's avatar

There is ALWAYS airtime on US media for (putative) Democrats who spend all their time and energy attacking Democrats. Bill Maher himself is Exhibit A.

belfryo's avatar

“We can say ‘retard’ and ‘pussy’ without the fear of getting cancelled . . . it’s a new dawn.”

This is one of the most fascinatingly revealing insights into the right wing mind...This weird notion of 'permission'...what are they? goddamned children?

Fluttbucker's avatar

Now I'm sad about a missed opportunity.

My sainted Ma passed away in 2011.

Thus, I couldn't phone her on Mother's Day and scream, 'FUCK YOU! I WON'T PICK UP MY ROOM AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!"

SethTriggs's avatar

Very bigoted children indeed. But they have the remit of the unreconstructed and thus what they do gets wide deference.

Myra Donnelley's avatar

Yes.

belfryo's avatar

"is that Henry Jekyll is not in fact a good person who has become the victim of his villainous alter ego, Edward Hyde. The potion Dr. Jekyll takes doesn’t “unleash” his evil side. It merely changes his physical appearance, so he is free to commit all sorts of horrible acts without facing any legal or reputational consequence."

this is how ignorant I am..I did NOT know this! Never read it unfortunately...But I ALWAYS thought that 'Jekyll' (that reads like Jackal) was a weird name for the 'good guy' in the equation!

I learned something new today! Huzzah

Pope Buck I's avatar

The 1932 Fredric March version makes it pretty clear that Jekyll is the outward face of a "respectable" Victorian gentleman, while Hyde is everything he gets up to after dark.