AND to only exacerbate things we’ve got hormone raging teenagers in charge of very sensitive subjects and intelligence and weaponry. Patel got rid of 12 members of the Iran intelligence with supposedly more coming. Kegsbreath just wants to go pew pew at the world due to his deep insecurities. You can almost see his priapism at this point when he’s telling us we’re gonna kill more people (but never having the actual balls of McArthur).
Add to this Molotov cocktail of the most insecure insane man who’s always believed in perceived insults to justify his retribution. Hell he even TOLD us he would and for some reason people actually thought that THIS was a lie but nothing else?
Not a single GOP would, in good faith, send their kids to this senseless quagmire. And Kegger did not want women in the military yet one has already been killed.
I’m not sure how I continue to marvel at all the illegal shit they do but everyday is a bad surprise.
I never considered Hillary Clinton to be a warmonger, but what I DID consider her to be was an establishment, bog-standard politician who would always come down on the side of what she and her handlers considered to be in her own political self-interest rather than principle, or best for the country, and I'm sick of that shit. I later voted for her anyway of course, as there was no sensible alternative. Obama took an unpopular-at-the-time stand, and he was right (and smart) to do so.
But anyone who says that the evidence that the whole ginned up mess wasn't clearly foreseeable as the mess it obviously became, and from the obvious lies and foolish excuses that were being offered, is deluded. Hillary knew it, but she made a calculated bet that opposing the rah-rah would be bad for her future prospects, and she bet wrong.
I'm sorry, but if Hillary Clinton had the sense of mouse, or displayed any of that famed nose for bullshit, she would have recognized the "intelligence" for what it was (a lot of people did at the time) and opposed the Iraq War. She probably would have had the 2008 Dem nomination if she had. But she *was* a hawk in the Lindsay Graham mold and Bush was doing what she wanted done, evidence be damned. That it came back to bite her is no one's fault but her own.
Sounds like you’re blaming Hillary Clinton for the war in Iraq.
First of all, Hillary nailed it in 1998, when she observed that there was a “vast, rightwing conspiracy” afoot to bring down the Clintons, which began in Arkansas during Bill Clinton’s early political years. And hating on a strong, smart woman was even more of a popular sport back then than it is now. Hillary was never going to be the Dem candidate in 2008, despite the optics, because once Obama came along, the DNC decided it “wasn’t her turn,” after all. A man will always take priority over a woman, no matter how much more experienced and seasoned the woman is. (Most recent proof of this: Talarico popping up to defeat Crockett in the Texas primary.)
Keep in mind that Hillary was the newly elected Senator from NY in 2001, and the horror of 9/11 was a fresh, gaping national wound. Everyone was rallying around the flag. Your contention that she would have been in the know re: false claims regarding WMDs as pretext for war against Iraq is simply not true. And, to quote from her floor speech in 2002, “This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.”
I don't blame her for anything. But it undeniably was a horrible error of judgment that cost her her only real shot for what she really wanted, which was to be president.
I get it now. Because Obama said, "What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war ... A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics," trump decided the only thing he could do was the opposite—start a dumb, rash war based on passion (hurt fee-fees) and politics.
AND to only exacerbate things we’ve got hormone raging teenagers in charge of very sensitive subjects and intelligence and weaponry. Patel got rid of 12 members of the Iran intelligence with supposedly more coming. Kegsbreath just wants to go pew pew at the world due to his deep insecurities. You can almost see his priapism at this point when he’s telling us we’re gonna kill more people (but never having the actual balls of McArthur).
Add to this Molotov cocktail of the most insecure insane man who’s always believed in perceived insults to justify his retribution. Hell he even TOLD us he would and for some reason people actually thought that THIS was a lie but nothing else?
Not a single GOP would, in good faith, send their kids to this senseless quagmire. And Kegger did not want women in the military yet one has already been killed.
I’m not sure how I continue to marvel at all the illegal shit they do but everyday is a bad surprise.
I never considered Hillary Clinton to be a warmonger, but what I DID consider her to be was an establishment, bog-standard politician who would always come down on the side of what she and her handlers considered to be in her own political self-interest rather than principle, or best for the country, and I'm sick of that shit. I later voted for her anyway of course, as there was no sensible alternative. Obama took an unpopular-at-the-time stand, and he was right (and smart) to do so.
But anyone who says that the evidence that the whole ginned up mess wasn't clearly foreseeable as the mess it obviously became, and from the obvious lies and foolish excuses that were being offered, is deluded. Hillary knew it, but she made a calculated bet that opposing the rah-rah would be bad for her future prospects, and she bet wrong.
Until 2016, I liked Maureen Dowd and Susan Sarandon. Can't forgive them for their reflexive Hillary hatred.
I'm sorry, but if Hillary Clinton had the sense of mouse, or displayed any of that famed nose for bullshit, she would have recognized the "intelligence" for what it was (a lot of people did at the time) and opposed the Iraq War. She probably would have had the 2008 Dem nomination if she had. But she *was* a hawk in the Lindsay Graham mold and Bush was doing what she wanted done, evidence be damned. That it came back to bite her is no one's fault but her own.
Sounds like you’re blaming Hillary Clinton for the war in Iraq.
First of all, Hillary nailed it in 1998, when she observed that there was a “vast, rightwing conspiracy” afoot to bring down the Clintons, which began in Arkansas during Bill Clinton’s early political years. And hating on a strong, smart woman was even more of a popular sport back then than it is now. Hillary was never going to be the Dem candidate in 2008, despite the optics, because once Obama came along, the DNC decided it “wasn’t her turn,” after all. A man will always take priority over a woman, no matter how much more experienced and seasoned the woman is. (Most recent proof of this: Talarico popping up to defeat Crockett in the Texas primary.)
Keep in mind that Hillary was the newly elected Senator from NY in 2001, and the horror of 9/11 was a fresh, gaping national wound. Everyone was rallying around the flag. Your contention that she would have been in the know re: false claims regarding WMDs as pretext for war against Iraq is simply not true. And, to quote from her floor speech in 2002, “This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.”
I don't blame her for anything. But it undeniably was a horrible error of judgment that cost her her only real shot for what she really wanted, which was to be president.
I get it now. Because Obama said, "What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war ... A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics," trump decided the only thing he could do was the opposite—start a dumb, rash war based on passion (hurt fee-fees) and politics.
It all makes sense.