I guess Kanter would also consider Scarlett O’Hara a feminist hero just trying to get by in a man’s world rather than an heiress blithely exploiting her slaves even after slavery was abolished.
I know the patriarchy and misogyny are real things, and it sucks how women are still treated in the workplace but there are bad actors, man and women, who we should not be celebrating for their sins.
The only honest take on the Wonka movie is that Grandpa Joe is a monster for faking a disability while Charlie’s mother toils away to support a six person household.
I am reminded of my Dramatic Literature class at Brown when the majority of my classmates agreed that Stanley was the "hero" of "Streetcar Named Desire". That was a very weird day.
“It’s admirable to leverage your unearned position of authority to exploit and purchase other human beings” is a side of the argument I didn’t see coming.
Violet at one point told Veruca to "can it, you twit!," so at least had that one redeeming quality. Also, since Denise Nickerson, as you noted, was on "Dark Shadows," I have a fondness for her portrayal of Violet. There is nothing redeeming about Veruca, and she reminds me more of trump than anyone else in all of literature, the movies, and TV.
Thanks for exposing that bizarre misreading of a seminal text. Now I want to write a “Why You Suck” song for Trump: “oompah loompah doopity do/We’ve got another lesson for you/oompah loompah doopity dump/ what do you do with a person called Trump?”
The point is all of the kids who are spoiled have...spoiled. It is the one engaging in life, working hard who is the winner.
Of course, that isn't how it works in capitalism, is it? The argument that any of these children are actually just stories of success in our world, favored by wealth, nepotism, and lack of empathy, rings tragically true.
Look, I get the impulse. But it's important not just to be contrary.
Veruca Salt would abuse the Oompa Loompas to increase production, gut all of the fantastical from the factory, buy the cheapest ingredients she could get, ruin the existing product and not come up with anything new unless she stole it or exploited someone to get it. Yes, I suppose the company could be a success and make a lot more profits for shareholders, but the product would be enshittified and the workers miserable and too poor to buy one of her now noxious chocolate bars.
If that is your idea of a good boss, then you're part of the problem of modern society.
I've not understood the feminist desire to turn every undesirable male characteristic into ones we should celebrate in females (thanks "Lean In", I guess?) The *whole idea* behind Veruca Salt is that she is objectively an indulged, entitled brat in the mold of the Trump spawn-can't you just see Eric whining, "No, NOW!" or using money to jump the line? It's not attractive in anyone and these traits should be discouraged whenever possible in a person of any sex/gender.
I guess Kanter would also consider Scarlett O’Hara a feminist hero just trying to get by in a man’s world rather than an heiress blithely exploiting her slaves even after slavery was abolished.
I know the patriarchy and misogyny are real things, and it sucks how women are still treated in the workplace but there are bad actors, man and women, who we should not be celebrating for their sins.
The only honest take on the Wonka movie is that Grandpa Joe is a monster for faking a disability while Charlie’s mother toils away to support a six person household.
I am reminded of my Dramatic Literature class at Brown when the majority of my classmates agreed that Stanley was the "hero" of "Streetcar Named Desire". That was a very weird day.
“It’s admirable to leverage your unearned position of authority to exploit and purchase other human beings” is a side of the argument I didn’t see coming.
Veruca Salt still makes me cringe. And thanks for the Dark Shadows reference-I loved that show!
I've seen a lot of, uh, interesting takes online. "Veruca salt was good actually" is definitely up there in terms of sheer audacity.
Hmm... if Veruca Salt is her idea of an aspirational girl boss, I bet I can guess Ms. Kanter's position on unions.
Violet at one point told Veruca to "can it, you twit!," so at least had that one redeeming quality. Also, since Denise Nickerson, as you noted, was on "Dark Shadows," I have a fondness for her portrayal of Violet. There is nothing redeeming about Veruca, and she reminds me more of trump than anyone else in all of literature, the movies, and TV.
Thanks for exposing that bizarre misreading of a seminal text. Now I want to write a “Why You Suck” song for Trump: “oompah loompah doopity do/We’ve got another lesson for you/oompah loompah doopity dump/ what do you do with a person called Trump?”
The point is all of the kids who are spoiled have...spoiled. It is the one engaging in life, working hard who is the winner.
Of course, that isn't how it works in capitalism, is it? The argument that any of these children are actually just stories of success in our world, favored by wealth, nepotism, and lack of empathy, rings tragically true.
Look, I get the impulse. But it's important not just to be contrary.
Veruca Salt would abuse the Oompa Loompas to increase production, gut all of the fantastical from the factory, buy the cheapest ingredients she could get, ruin the existing product and not come up with anything new unless she stole it or exploited someone to get it. Yes, I suppose the company could be a success and make a lot more profits for shareholders, but the product would be enshittified and the workers miserable and too poor to buy one of her now noxious chocolate bars.
If that is your idea of a good boss, then you're part of the problem of modern society.
Today I learned someone liked and aspired to be Veruca Salt.
That's diabolical work!
I have to admit I thought it was a joke at first. Then I remembered we live in the dumbest timeline.
I've not understood the feminist desire to turn every undesirable male characteristic into ones we should celebrate in females (thanks "Lean In", I guess?) The *whole idea* behind Veruca Salt is that she is objectively an indulged, entitled brat in the mold of the Trump spawn-can't you just see Eric whining, "No, NOW!" or using money to jump the line? It's not attractive in anyone and these traits should be discouraged whenever possible in a person of any sex/gender.
Eric used to steal all the Twizzlers from The Apprentice craft tables. Don't know what made me think of that...
Eric Trump (b. 1984) was 20 years old in 2004 when the Apprentice began airing...which makes "stealing all the Twizzlers" truly pathetic.
Agreed.
"Buy me an Oompa Loompa, Daddy" immediately makes me think of Princess Ivanka.
RIGHT? I swear to god Ivana molded her after Veruca!