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Dave Zimny's avatar

“In retrospect, Kamala’s Joy Campaign was a mistake, the 2028 Democratic nominee needs to be angry. JD Vance surely will be angry.”

Angry, and lonely. Everyone does hate Vance, which is why my early pick for the 2028 GOP presidential nomination is Marco Rubio. He's been tucked away at the State Department, far removed from Trump's most unpopular decisions (unlike Vance), sucking up to the Supreme Leader and making few if any enemies among The Base...

belfryo's avatar

Rubio would lose even harder than Vance...He MIGHT be the only republican contender with LESS charisma than Vance.

Dave Zimny's avatar

Right! Of course, the last Republican presidential candidate with any charisma at all was Ronald Reagan. That's why I think any candidate the Democrats nominate will be elected in 2028, but I have no guess at all as to who the lucky winner will be...

belfryo's avatar

It's gonna be a zinger!

belfryo's avatar

Especially now that there IS some hope...SOMETHING feels different. This administration feels weaker than I could have expected...The SENSE that I get is that we know we are not in a position to strike right now, but that once the power dynamic tips JUST A LITTLE, we will go in for the kill on SO many levels and on so many fronts. We are at the edge of a precipice...One of two things will happen...We will either go over the edge into oblivion, or we'll get SO close to it that we will be spooked out of apathy and into action. The Billionaire class has NO IDEA how hard we are going to come for them when we get power back, and any billionaire apologists in democratic leadership will suffer the same fate as the fuckers they cover for...It just feels like SO MANY important pieces are in place or being put in place right now. This year and a half has not been 'passive'...Even a shift in the gestalt is a kind of movement and I'd argue an essential first step that everything else grows from

SethTriggs's avatar

I do like the idea of hope. That's why I implore people to jump their voter suppression hoops right now...especially in unreconstructed state-based regimes of terror.

Now also keep in mind...a lot of the people who hate us also have hope that the minorities they hate will be destroyed. It's our job to outnumber them at the polls.

Linda1961 is proudly woke's avatar

Right on all counts. Dems do need to be angry, but channel it at the right people, like trump and his regime, and channel it to bring about something better for the nation. They also need to express joy, in spite of the bad things that trump's regime is doing to the nation. Mostly, they need to bring back hope that we will build back better, as VP Harris said.

belfryo's avatar

The happy warrior isn't NOT angry...just sayin'!

Late Blooming's avatar

"far too many men on the left have an issue with this"

Too many on the left have an issue with a lot of things, frankly. The idea that no one can have any joy in their life as long as others are oppressed (and in far left land everyone is either oppressed or oppressor) is a big reason IMO the politics get almost no traction outside Jacobin readers. Even if you have sympathy for the cause, people hate being lectured and even *more* hate being blamed for issues over which they have no real control (like the manner in which land was appropriated in this country, to name just one). While it is true that those at MAGA rallies seem to be having a good time, it's underpinned by a seething, not-totally-inappropriate rage at the failures of our political and professional elite to care for the country and do what's best for it, instead of what's best for them. So, speaking for myself, joy is a hard sell-I can't be really joyful while incompetent misanthropes try to shred my country, it feels false, but I can have HOPE that things will be better (like the old Obama poster said!)

Suzie Greenburg's avatar

I've been focusing on the future lately in a very deliberate way. Nine years ago my dad died, then the pandemic hit, then mom died a couple of years after that. I've made mistakes and have been dragging them around with me, feeling unable to act other than directionless survival. Not that I've been in deep, dark greif the entire time, but I do feel like I've finally laid that down. Like I've woken up from something. And now I remind myself the way is forward. The past is indeed behind me, and my actions must be guided by future plans. My mistakes must be rectified, learned from, and then put to bed. But I no longer feel overwhelmed by them.

I hadn't really put a word to this yet, but it is 'hope.' I hadn't felt it about myself in a long while.

Here's to you Mr Robinson, enjoy the rest of the festival!

Cheers!

Frank Talk, Action Pundit!'s avatar

*𝗧*𝗛*𝗜*𝗦* x a jillion!