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Kevin King's avatar

If you can't even order donuts, then you should never be one step away from the nuclear codes!

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Sadly Practical's avatar

Periodically, I feel bad for JD Vance, because I understand the awkward bright people deeply. But the donut shop situation is a clue as to why he doesn’t actually deserve too much pity: because while interacting with people can be tough when you are self conscious, it’s really not too hard if you actually like them and care what they have to say. And he neither cares, nor thinks they have any expertise to offer.

He didn’t ask the easy questions to draw them out or suss out if they want to talk: “what’s your favorite?” or “what’s the best donut you guys make?” These are questions that allow them to politely lie if they want. They make a suggestion, which you take because a. They are most likely correct about what is tasty and b. Taking their advice is flattering, which is helpful in conversation. This is an interaction that lets you see if they want to chat or if they just want your order and actually hate donuts (or You). Pay attention to their cues, and they will know that you cared about their opinions, their expertise, and their preferences.

You can care about the people serving you, or you can pretend you care about people serving you, but doing neither is bad politics, JD Vance.

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